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Did you have any input in the casting?
When it was first pitched to me, ang una ko talagang sinabi, “There needs to be diversity.” I hope we’re able to cast people of different backgrounds, experiences, body types, different profiles. Because that’s what we want. IIt’s very important that this representation [will] resonate [with] the public’s standpoint in terms of relatability. Kasi, if a person is relatable, he, she, or they will never undermine their existence as well. Mararamdaman nila, “Hindi ako nag-iisa.” And that makes a difference. If you see that there’s someone like you, you’ll feel that you matter too.
What was your first impression of the cast?
Nung una ko silang nakilala, I was happy that they cast two femme people na hindi nahihiyang ipakita ang kanilang femininity. Because more often than not, this is the common issue among men. That masc gay men would only prefer masc gay men. But now, I’m seeing two flamboyant figures (Bong and Dan) na very in touch with their femininity. Actually, if you look at the roster of campers, most of them are in touch with their feminine side. Sadya lang talaga na [mas] kita ‘yung flamboyance ni Bong, and the quirky, feminine side of Dan.Ang gusto ko sanang makita pa dito ay isang chub effem. That was my recommendation. Because in the world of Grindr, ‘yun ‘yung pinaka-lowest of the low. And I saw my chub effem friends suffer in their insecurity of not being liked by anyone, kasi hindi sila preferred. So sana, in the succeeding seasons, chub effems would dare to join “Sparks Camp,” because if they show up, malamang sa malamang, one of them will get casted. And they will empower another chub effem from anywhere in the world.
There’s been a lot of talk about the casting. When the trailer premiered, you said that diversity isn’t just found in the physicality of the campers; it’s also intersectional.
One thing I learned as an LGBTQIA+ advocate is [to look] into the lens of intersectionality. Because being queer doesn’t only involve love. It doesn’t only involve the physical aspect. It also involves how you relate with people, your education, your social circle, the circumstances that you are in.
Doon ko nakikita ‘yung ganda ng selecting people across ages, across locations, across social experiences, because when they discuss things, you’ll see different perspectives. For example, during Episode 1, si Stanley, ‘di niya nakuha ‘yung L.A. na Lower Antipolo joke ni Aaron. And sinabi niya na, “Sorry ah, ‘di ko kasi gets ‘yung Manila jokes.” And that’s totally fine! Because perhaps, they have a different language of what’s funny. Iba rin ‘yung forms of communication ng isang introvert na kagaya ni Alex, sa isang outgoing personality ni Bong. So ‘yung dynamics nila also reflect the realities of how we interact as a community, na iba-iba pa rin tayo.I welcome the discussion with so much hope. The [criticism was] hurtful, for sure, pero I saw it as a silver lining. Because, number one, they are aware that a show like this is happening. They want to contribute something to make the show better. And now that I am seeing excited viewers, I am looking forward to a better “Sparks Camp.” Kasi mas makakapag-produce pa tayo ng mas meaningful na shows and editions in the future.’ ’50’: ‘image’: ‘jcr:5e9a7d3d-d4c8-4925-b039-045f05bb8bb1’ ‘imageCaption’: ‘”One thing I learned as an LGBTQIA+ advocate is [to look] into the lens of intersectionality. Because being queer doesn’t only involve love. It doesn’t only involve the physical aspect. It also involves how you relate with people, your education, your social circle, the circumstances that you
As the show’s Mother Sparker, what advice would you give to younger LGBTQIA+ people who want to start dating but are hesitant?
First and foremost, don’t feel insecure about the things that people have already dictated upon you. Like beauty standards. How to move in a certain space. Your level of femininity and masculinity. Kasi ito ‘yung mga unang levels of insecurity. I want you to free yourself from those labels that are set by society. Because now, we’re breaking all these stereotypes that we’ve created, and are forming a diverse definition of what it’s like to be queer.So, as a young kid exploring your sexuality, know what you want. Start getting to know your non-negotiables. Kasi these will define how you will be able to move in a relationship, if it happens to you.
Number two, don’t be afraid to be single. In a society that grew up in a rom-com environment, it shaped us to make love the end-all-be-all of our existence. But as a single woman, singlehood is actually a stable place to be in. Because you [get to] look at yourself as an evolving individual. And as you evolve, doon mas lumalalim ‘yung pagtingin mo sa pag-ibig. Embrace being an individual.
Pangatlo, ‘pag wala sa Pilipinas ang spark mo, nasa ibang bansa. (Laughs )
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Another thing I liked about “Sparks Camp” was that you said there aren’t necessarily winners or losers. It’s not a competition; if you walk away with no date, that’s okay too.
Yes. Hindi ka talo kung wala kang spark. I mean, ang definition ba ng pagkapanalo parati is merong mutual understanding of emotions? Hindi. Actually, panalo ka kahit single ka. So we need to appreciate that there’s beauty to being in a relationship, and there’s beauty to being single.
One thing I’ve discovered is that a relationship is work. It entails dedication, acceptance of the other person. Ins and outs, flaws and all. Kailangan tanggap mo ‘yun. At ‘yung dynamics of time, languages, different contexts, kailangan mo kasi pagsamahin ‘yun. At mahirap ‘yun ha, to blend with another person. That’s tough. At maso-solidify lang ‘yun if you appreciate your singlehood.
One of the things that struck me in Episode 3 was your conversation with Dan, when he said that he felt conscious when people would say, “Oh, you’re soft pala.” But then you said that his softness is his power. As a trans woman, how were you able to harness your femininity and your softness into this power that you have now?
When I began appreciating my femininity, that’s when I saw myself in my most beautiful. Physically, mentally spiritually, socially. Because I am my most confident. Because this is the real me. I see femininity as my power because it made me fly. Nung identifying pa lang ako as a gay man, actually, tinry ko mag-gym. Sabi ko, “Hindi ako ‘to.” I am a queen. I am Miss Universe. So why will I build huge muscles when in fact, ang gusto ko lang na muscles ay sapat lang.
So for gay men na nakikita kong insecurity ‘yung pagiging femme, kasi hindi sila “marketable,” it insults me. Kasi, are you telling me that I’m not likable? Let’s not insult ourselves. Instead, I will tell you, that based on my experience, this is power. Because it led me from one place to another. Liberation.
I really appreciated what you said to Dan. Because in gay dating, like you said, femmes and chubs are at the lowest rank, which needs to change.
Correct. Alam mo, meron akong reflection nung isang araw. I met two drag queens, in drag, [who] approached me and said, “Mag-jowa po kami.” Sabi ko, in a masc-for-masc, femme-for-masc world, hindi kaya ang solution is for femme men to date femme men?
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Do you think we’re close to having a trans dating show here in the Philippines?
Yes we are. I mean, “Sparks Camp” could be a vehicle for it. My dream is actually for “Sparks Camp” to feature all types of queer love. If there’s a Season 2 — I don’t know if it’s still [going to be] a queer guys edition — I’m excited to see a bisexual edition, a lesbian edition, a trans edition. So that people can normalize queer dating, especially here in our country. So it is possible, and hopefully “Sparks Camp” will be that vehicle.
What do you hope people will take away from the show?
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